Advices for future jobs

[manya92]

Hello everyone, sorry for not writing in your language, but it is better like this. I would be happy if you could. I'm from Belgrade, Serbia, 24 years old, I have been 5 years experience in graphic industry-finishing printed products, assembling car foils etc..In past years I have been interested in programming, mostly backend, PHP with mySQL and Laravel framework , So little of Wordpress. Of course, you should have some knowledge of HTML and CSS  I do not have a university degree. I work mostly with my friend, Google. So, I'm asking, which is the best way to get a job as a junior in Germany? I saw some job ads, for junior php developer, And I have received a couple of answers, with questions in it, on I EU citizen. So, it's a good job. Yes, I will continue with my resume, but I need some advice about it, is there some apprenticeships for less money? Thank you for your interest in posting answers

[Chief Wiggum]

Hi, and welcome on this board

 

vor 32 Minuten schrieb manya92:

which is the best way to get a job as a junior in Germany?

Certificates, certificates and certificates. We Germans believe that there is no knowledge when you have no certificate... sorry, but it's really a german thing.

vor 36 Minuten schrieb manya92:

is there some apprenticeships for less money?

Hey, we are germans. Even apprenticeships are ordered by a law.

Do you have any serbian papers that cite you had something similar to german "dual apprenticeship"? There is a german way by law (based on EU law) (what else, we are germans...) that lets you homologate your serbian certificates.

[Chief Wiggum]

vor 46 Minuten schrieb manya92:

Hello everyone, sorry for not writing in your language, but it is better like this.

Another Sorry, but you should speak and write german if you want a job in germany... another arrogant thing about us germans - allthough most of us speak fluend english.

[manya92]

Ja, das war es, was ich suchte. Ich selbst glaube auch, dass du Zertifikate brauchst. Ich besitze ein Zertifikat in der Entwicklung von PHP / MySQL-Webanwendungen von der Universität Belgrad. Ich schätze die zeit, die du verbringst, dies zu schreiben, das hat mir sehr geholfen. Wünsche mir glück beim Deutschlernen. Es ist keine arroganz, es ist normal, deine sprache und identität zu behalten.

[Rienne]

vor 9 Stunden schrieb manya92:

is there some apprenticeships for less money?

There's always the possibility to apply for an "dual apprenticeship" (like @Chief Wiggum mentioned) at a german enterprise. You don't have to pay any money for this but get a small salary. But it will take you, in normal cases, two to three years to finish it and you have to be quite familiar with the german language to do your project at the end of it. In the end you would be a "Fachinformatiker für Anwendungsentwicklung" and may apply for most junior developer positions and chances are good that you may also stay with the company you did your apprenticeship at.

[Nopp]

vor 7 Stunden schrieb manya92:

Ja, das war es, was ich suchte. Ich selbst glaube auch, dass du Zertifikate brauchst. Ich besitze ein Zertifikat in der Entwicklung von PHP / MySQL-Webanwendungen von der Universität Belgrad. Ich schätze die zeit, die du verbringst, dies zu schreiben, das hat mir sehr geholfen. Wünsche mir glück beim Deutschlernen. Es ist keine arroganz, es ist normal, deine sprache und identität zu behalten.

Is this written with some dictionary, or is this your own german knowledge? Better as the most immigrants  

[manya92]

17 hours ago, Nopp said:

Is this written with some dictionary, or is this your own german knowledge? Better as the most immigrants  

Sorry, I wish this is my level of knowledge, but with a little help of friend, we wrote it.

 

17 hours ago, Rienne said:

There's always the possibility to apply for an "dual apprenticeship" (like @Chief Wiggum mentioned) at a german enterprise. You don't have to pay any money for this but get a small salary. But it will take you, in normal cases, two to three years to finish it and you have to be quite familiar with the german language to do your project at the end of it. In the end you would be a "Fachinformatiker für Anwendungsentwicklung" and may apply for most junior developer positions and chances are good that you may also stay with the company you did your apprenticeship at.

Hey, that sounds really amazing and for me unbelievable. You mean like studying German language and working in some company as a apprentice ?

[tTt]

Its maybe the best thing of german Education System. After you've finished your Highschool (Gymnasium) in Germany, you will have the choice to get an apprenticeship at a german Company with a small salary (600-1000€ median per month for three years). Salary depends from Company to Company. At the end you'll get a certificate as system engineer or programmer scientist. Salary is good, but not as high as a Bachelor. 

The other choice is to study at a german university for a bachelor degree. Studying at a german University is in general free, but you'll have to finance your life by your own.

I'm not sure, whether you'll get a study help called BAFÖG(another german law, btw) cause of your EU-Citizen.

It is a finance help for students with less income or poor families. You'll have to pay half of it back, and have follow serveral rules, otherwise it will be cutted of immediatly. You should Check it.

Studying is a better door opener to get a well paid Job in Germany. But as System Engineer or Programmer Scientist you'll find kindly easy a Job, too.

The biggest problem is your missing german language skill. German grammatics is just crappy!  

To get an apprenticeship at a Company in Germany, you just have to apply for it. The Company should educate you with daily tasks and experiences and send you to special schools for theoretics Education.

It's the German Dual System. 

Wish you all the best!

Bearbeitet 5. Mai 2017 von tTt